In between birth and death

Struggling to achieve unwanted goals, and walking to reach undecided destination

Chillllllllllll March 31, 2006

Filed under: Uncategorized — rammanohar @ 11:20 am

Wow exam is over… non stop 8 wicket down in 11 days test. as usual thinking in between exams that " next time ford dalengey" ::"next time I will do excellent job"

Good thing about the period, in the relaxing period, after long exhausting mugging session, I did composed some of the poems. Will be posting after complilation.

Ram Manohar


A day with Dilli Raj Sharma March 25, 2006

Filed under: Art Culture,googler,Nepal,Uncategorized — rammanohar @ 9:48 pm

 Mahendra Malangia(Left) and Dilli Raj Sharma(Right).JPG

 I have been in touch with this eminent Historian of Nepal, since I landed in Delhi. But never though in depth about the contributions he is doing to history and archeology. In fact I never tried to explore too. We became quite friends in these 8 months of stay in delhi.

Yesterday, I came to know that he is returning back to Nepal since he is done with his Research paper. Today, after MIS paper I rushed to him after lunch.

   There I came to know about his Doctorate topics and in the same context I came to know much about Nepal’s History and archeology. The perspective was entirely different than what is being told and heard in normal discussions. Generally, Nepal History starts with Shah Dynasty and Ends there only ( 1743 AD to till date, around 250 years). and that too political dimension. No clutural aspects, no social aspects. that too in discriminatory way.

 Dilli Raj Sharma’s work extents much beyound todays Historians view. He has studied cultural aspects of Nepal from 7th Century to 17th century. A great effort. Sir, you deserve a lot of praise. At end of discussion. he also agreed for Digitisation of his work on web some day. Hope his work will open a new door of research and Discussion in ancient history of Nepal.

He has some of the publications on his name.

I managed to get some more info about him from Net.

Currently he serves in Centre for Nepal and Asian Studies (CNAS), Tribhuvan University, Kathmandu, Nepal. He is also Editor of “Contributions to Nepalese Studies”.

By the end of our chat, a disappointing news, today he was having RNAC flight to Nepal, but the flight got cancelled. No Comment .. Its RNAC…



The Mistake You Cannot Forget March 22, 2006

Filed under: Art Culture,Poem,Uncategorized — rammanohar @ 9:14 pm

Time to Chill, Tomorrow is MS( management Science) paper. Just had dinner, @ 2 am, haa haaa haaa..   and surfing though net landed me here….  great collection on orkut .!!!

The Mistake You Cannot Forget
You say you cannot forget
And you aren’t ready to forgive
But I need your friendship
More than you’ll even know
I need you there to live

Without you by my side today
Life’s been going, oh so slow
I miss your calls
Our endless talks
The places we would go

You can’t even bear to look at me,
And I know my mistake
For because of one night,
And a few thoughtless actions,
When you saw me you ran and hid

I know we cannot take it back
As much as we would like to
But we could forget
And start all over
Just friends, that’s me and you

If time is what you need,
Then I guess that’s what you’ll get
But I need you there for me soon,
My friend,
I hope you will forget.


Who Am I ? “हम के छी”, ” मै कौन हु”, ” म को हु” ? March 14, 2006

Filed under: Discussion,Nepal,Uncategorized — rammanohar @ 2:12 pm

Who Am I ?
Nepalese of Indian origin, or Indian of Nepalese origin or Bihari ??

            Who is asking the question ? This becomes very important because this is also very important question. If a person asking this question is next to my house then the question can be very interesting. But the person asking is from far land then I can only say in one word “Nepalese of Maithil origin”.

            If the person is my neighbour then I would like to re-frame this question and wants to challenge them, if you have fire in the belly and you have guts then, search and prove it. I opening declaring “I am Nepalese of Maithili Origin”.

            Let me talk about the Mithila. Word originated from Miti, a age old Saint, from whose name the kingdom Mithila was named. It is same Mithila where King Janak, father of Goddess Sita (Heroin of Hindu epic Ramayana), had their rule. The Mithila in the modern history is have good history from 10th century onward . It is the period when Maithili language was born, at the same time when other Indian subcontinent languages like Bangali, Hindi, Oriya, Gujraji, Marthi was evolving.

            Modern Mithila Kingdom had its presence as different names. Some time Mithila, Some time Tirhut, Some time Makwanpur and so on. The ancient geography of Mithila region stretched from Koshi river, to Ganga river to Himalaya to Braj bhumi.

            In the modern history of Nepal during Mallas dynasty, people were Maithili speaking, and most of the kings were writer too. Many of the literature of Maithili are today available in Maithili in library in Kathmandu.

            Makwanpur in its time was the most prosperous Kingdom of the region. Makwanpur had its origin even before the Nepal kingdom was born. King Prithivinarayan Shah (The founder of Nepal) was quite intelligent and married the Princeses, Sri Chautaria Maharani Indra Kumari Devi, of Makwanpur. The King at that time was Sri Sri Sri Maharaja Hemkarna Sen, Maharaja of Makwanpur. In this way Prithivinarayan shah was able to integrate Mithila region, belonging to Makwanpur, to the modern Nepal.

            And with this integration, Sri Maharaja Hemkarna Sen, Maharaja of Makwanpur and Prithivinarayan Shah wrote a history whose undesirable consequences are seen today.

            Though Makwanpur was integrated in Nepal, its integration was just Geographical. The cultural and historical(past history) integration has never occured. People of Mithila Kingdom were never accepted in the mainstream of Nepal. They were never given the administrative power. The result is today’s divided psychology of Nepalese. People of then Makwanpur kingdom are treated as “outside” in decent term. But many other terms are given to these people. To list some of them, Madhesia ( Means People of Madhyadesh, land between Himalaya and mainland Indian Subcontinent), Terai Basi ( People leaving in Terai region, term given by English people during their rule), Nepalese of Indian origin  (term used by most of the non-maithil people of Nepal), Indian of Nepalese origin ( as Govt of other country other than Nepal treats), Bihari ( Gautum Budha Started their journey from these places, Bihars become the associated name with these lands).

            In the name of the National structuring, and whatever you can say( a long term discriminating vision or planning of the state), lands from Maithili were taken some 50 years back and distributed to non Maithili of Nepal. In this way Govt did good job in creating more harmony among the peoples of Maithili and non-Maithili. Once the productivity of fertile soil of Mithila was know to others the density of non-Maithili continued to grow. Non-Maithili and the Govt made very good arrangement and maithils started being neglected even on their own land.

            Gradually the time came when Maithili were labeled as “Nepalese of Indian Origin”. Now the so called “Nepalese of Indian Origin”, is being asked to return back to their state. I am asking which state ? Makwanpur or Mithila, or India. Was is not a long term strategic vision of state and the people for giving the tag “Nepalese of Indian Origin”. Line “People of Indian origin” is mostly used for NRI( Non Resident Indians, whose forefather had once lived in Indian Land. Now the question is what should Maithils do with the tag ” Nepalese of Indian origin “.

            Should the Maithils, the people of Makwanpur kingdom, now start asking the question ” Where they are from” ?; “Where is their origin?”; “Where should they now start to go?”, or “What should be their demand from the current state ?” If  Kingdom and Non-Maithils  are listening,  I am demanding, return back their Old Makwanpur Kingdom. People will be manage to live with their Makwanpur kingdom. They will try to become happy with what they are left with.

            And the time will surely come when people will start raising this question,Where is “My” Makwanpur State? Return It Back to Me ?

            This article I have written in the time , when highly educated people are also raising the question of “Nepalese of Indian Origin”. One of my classmate in post graduate today made me realize that, the issue is how much burning through out Nepalese Kingdom, irrespective of the intellectual level.

Ram Manohar

14 March 2006


दुर है वोह सच्चाई से – dur hai woh sacchaaee se March 7, 2006

Filed under: मेरी कविताए,Hindi — rammanohar @ 9:13 pm



लोगो को बाते करते देखा है,

काम नही वह करते है,

मुंह के वान चलाते है,

निशाना कहीं लगाते है,

तीर कहीं और गिराते है,

लोगो को बाते करते देखा है


देखे वह इस दुनिया को,

आग लगी है इस दुनिया को,

आश लगाई बैठे इस कन्या को,

निरास बैठे इस युवा को,

लाठी थामे इस बुढिया को,

जहर भरी इस पुडीया को


कोइ दे इनको यह बताइ,

बुझेगी कब आग समायी,

होगी कब इसकी बिदाइ,

मिलेगी कब इसको पढाई,

करे ये किसकी दुहाई,

लेगा कौन इस को अपनाई


कौन होगा जो यह देखेगा,

प्यासा है क्यो लोग

जब सागर भरी है पानी से,

भुका है क्यो लोग

जब गोदाम भरी है अनाज से,

सोता नही क्यो लोग

जब सहर सजी है इमारत से,

अपनाता नही क्यो लोग

जब दिखते है सब खुन एक से,

मिलता नही चैन क्यो किसी को,

जब कुछ नही ले जाना यहा से


दुर है वोह सच्चाई से,

पर आँखे दिखाये बैठे है,

हाथ उनका कभी चलता नही,

पर तान चलाये बैठे है


राम मनोहर साह

07 March 2006



Valmiki did not commit any error – Part II March 5, 2006

Filed under: Art Culture,Discussion,Uncategorized — rammanohar @ 5:59 pm

Valmiki did not commit any error

Author: Saroj Bala
Publication: The Pioneer

Date: October 13, 2003
In Valmiki Ramayan it is mentioned that Shri Ram’s army constructed a bridge over the sea between Rameshwaram and Lanka. After crossing this bridge, Shri Ram’s army had defeated Ravana. Recently, NASA put pictures (reproduced here) on the Internet of a man-made bridge, the ruins of which are lying submerged in Palk Strait between Rameshwaram and Sri Lanka. Recently the Sri Lankan Government had expressed the desire to develop Sita Vatika as a tourist spot. Sri Lankans believe this was Ashok Vatika where Ravana had kept Sita as a prisoner (in 5076 BC).
Indian history has recorded that Shri Ram belonged to the Suryavansh and he was the 64th ruler of this dynasty. The names and other relevant particulars of previous 63 kings are listed in Ayodhya Ka Itihas written about 80 years ago by Rai Bahadur Sita Ram. Professor Subhash Kak of Lousiana University, in his book, The Astronomical Code of the Rig Veda, has also listed 63 ancestors of Shri Ram who ruled over Ayodhya. Sri Ram’s ancestors have been traced out as: Shri Ram, King Dashratha, King Aja, King Raghu, King Dilip and so on. From Kashmir to Kanyakumari and from Bengal to Gujarat, everywhere people believe in the reality of Shri Ram’s existence, particularly in the tribal areas of Himachal, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and the North-East. Most of the festivals celebrated in these areas revolve around the events in the life of Shri Ram and Shri Krishna.
The events and places related to the life of Shri Ram and Sita are true cultural and social heritage of every Indian irrespective of caste and creed. Therefore, it is common heritage. After all, Shri Ram belonged to the period when Prophet Mohammed or Jesus Christ were not born and Muslim or Christian faiths were unknown to the world. The words Hindu (resident of Hindustan) and Indian (resident of India) were synonymous. India was also known as Bharat (land of knowledge) and Aryavarta (where Aryans live) and Hindustan (land of “Hindus” – derived from word Indus).
During Ram Rajya, the evils of caste system based on birth were non-existent. In fact, Maharishi Valmiki is stated to be of shudra class (scheduled caste), still Sita lived with him as his adopted daughter after she was banished from Ayodhya. Luv and Kush grew in his ashram as his disciples. We need to be proud of the fact that Valmiki was perhaps the first great astronomer and that his study of planetary configurations has stood the test of times. Even the latest computer softwares have corroborated his astronomical calculations, which proves that he did not commit any error.
Shabari is stated to be belonging to the Bheel tribe. Shri Ram’s army, which succeeded in defeating Ravana, was formed by various tribals from Central and South India. The facts, events and all other details relating to the life of Shri Ram are the common heritage of all the Indians including scheduled castes, scheduled tribes, Muslims, Christians, etc.
Prophet Mohammad was born 1,400 years ago. Jesus Christ was born 2,000 years back. Gautam Buddha was born 2,600 years back, whereas Ram was born 7,000 years back. Hence, discovering the details relating to Shri Ram’s life would be lot more difficult as destruction caused by floods, earthquakes and invasions etc., would be far greater. But, should that stop our quest for learning more about our cultural heritage?
As Indians, let us all take pride in the fact that the Indian civilisation is the most ancient civilisation today. It is certainly more than 10,000 years old. Therefore, let us reject the story of Aryan invasion in India in 1,500 BC as motivated implantation. In fact Max Mueller, who was the creator of this theory had himself rejected it. Let us admit that during the British Rule, we were educated in the schools based on Macaulay school of thinking which believed that everything Indian was inferior and that entire “Indian literature was not worth even one book rack in England”. If there were similarities in certain features of Indian people and people from Central Europe, then automatic inference drawn was that the Aryans coming from Europe invaded India and settled here. No one dared of thinking in any other way. Therefore, there is urgency for the historians and all other intellectuals to stop reducing Indian history to myth. There is need to gather, dig out, search, unearth and analyse all the evidences, which would throw more light on ancient Indian civilisation and culture.
There is need for the print and the electronic media to take note of these facts and create atmosphere which would motivate our young and educated youth to carry out research and unearth true facts about the ancient Indian civilisation and wisdom and would also encourage them to put across the results of their research before the people fearlessly and with a sense of pride!
(The article is concluded)


Ram was for real – Part-I

Filed under: Art Culture,Discussion,Uncategorized — rammanohar @ 5:56 pm

Ram was for real 

Author: Saroj Bala
Publication: The Pioneer

Date: October 11, 2003 

We Indians are the products of one of the oldest civilisations. We need to be really proud of our ancient history and cultural heritage. However, during the British Rule, we developed an inferiority complex, which adversely affected our quest to unearth facts relating to our glorious past. But our young and educated men and women, born and brought up in independent India, are capable of unearthing the true facts and are confident enough to evaluate these objectively.

Shri Ram being most basic to Indian “ethos”, it is necessary to know who is Shri Ram? Was he really born? If yes, when and where? As is believed by crores of people did he really put his feet on the Indian territory from North to South, reducing the sufferings of mankind and ensuring victory of good over evil? Let us take a look at historical facts:


The story of Shri Ram’s life was first narrated by Maharishi Valmiki in the Ramayana, which was written after Shri Ram was crowned as the king of Ayodhya. Maharishi Valmiki was a great astronomer as he has made sequential astronomical references on important dates related to the life of Shri Ram indicating the location of planets vis-a-vis zodiac constellations and the other stars (nakshatras). Needless to add that similar position of planets and nakshatras is not repeated in thousands of years. By entering the precise details of the planetary configuration of the important events in the life of Shri Ram as given in the Valmiki Ramayan in the software named “Planetarium” corresponding exact dates of these events according to the English calendar can be known. 

Mr Pushkar Bhatnagar of the Indian Revenue Service had acquired this software from the US. It is used to predict the solar/lunar eclipses and distance and location of other planets from earth. He entered the relevant details about the planetary positions narrated by Maharishi Valmiki and obtained very interesting and convincing results, which almost determine the important dates starting from the birth of Shri Ram to the date of his coming back to Ayodhya after 14 years of exile.

Maharishi Valmiki has recorded in Bal Kaand sarga 19 and shloka eight and nine (1/18/8,9) that Shri Ram was born on ninth tithi of Chaitra month when the position of different planets vis-a-vis zodiac constellations and nakshatras (visible stars) were: i) Sun in Aries; ii) Saturn in Libra; iii) Jupiter in Cancer; iv) Venus in Pisces; v) Mars in Capricorn; vi) Lunar month of Chaitra; vii) Ninth day after no moon; viii) Lagna as Cancer (cancer was rising in the east); ix) Moon on the Punarvasu (Gemini constellation & Pllux star); x) Day time (around noon).


This data, was fed into the software. The results indicated that this was exactly the location of planets/stars in the noon of January 10, 5114 BC. Thus Shri Ram was born on January 10, 5114 BC (7117 years back). As per the Indian calendar it was the ninth day of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra month and the time was around 12 to 1 noontime. This is exactly the time and date when Ram Navmi is celebrated all over India.


Shri Ram was born in Ayodhya. This fact can be ascertained from several books written by Indian and foreign authors before and after the birth of Christ – Valmiki Ramayan, Tulsi Ramayan, Kalidasa’s Raghuvansam, Baudh and Jain literature, etc. These books have narrated in great detail the location, rich architecture and beauty of Ayodhya which had many palaces and temples built all over the kingdom. Ayodhya was located on the banks of the Saryu river with Ganga and Panchal Pradesh on one side and Mithila on the other side. Normally 7,000 years is a very long period during which earthquakes, storms, floods and foreign invasions change the course of rivers, destroy the towns/buildings and alter the territories. Therefore, the task of unearthing the facts is monumental. The present Ayodhya has shrunk in size and the rivers have changed their course about 40 km north/south.


Shri Ram went out of Ayodhya in his childhood (13th year as per Valmiki Ramayan) with Rishi Vishwamitra who lived in Tapovan (Sidhhashram). From there he went to Mithila, King Janaka’s kingdom. Here he married Sita after breaking Shiv Dhanusha. Researchers have gone along the route adopted by Shri Ram as narrated in the Valmiki Ramayan and found 23 places which have memorials that commemorate the events related to the life of Shri Ram. These include Shringi Ashram, Ramghat, Tadka Van, Sidhhashram, Gautamashram, Janakpur (now in Nepal), Sita Kund, etc. Memorials are built for great men and not for fictitious characters.


Date of exile of Shri Ram: It is mentioned in Valmiki Ramayan’s Ayodhya Kand (2/4/18) that Dashratha wanted to make Shri Ram the king because Sun, Mars and Rahu had surrounded his nakshatra, and normally under such planetary configuration the king dies or becomes a victim of conspiracies. Dashratha’s zodiac sign was Pisces and his nakshatra was Rewati. This planetary configuration was prevailing on the January 5, 5089 BC, and it was on this day that Shri Ram left Ayodhya for 14 years of exile. Thus, he was 25 years old at that time (5114-5089). There are several shlokas in Valmiki Ramayan which indicate that Shri Ram was 25-years-old when he left Ayodhya for exile.


Valmiki Ramayan refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with Khardushan in later half of 13th year of Shri Ram’s exile. It is also mentioned it was amavasya day and Mars was in the middle. When this data was entered, the software indicated that there was a solar eclipse on October 7, 5077 BC, (amavasya day) which could be seen from Panchvati. The planetary configuration was also the same – Mars was in the middle, on one side were Venus and Mercury and on the other side were Sun and Saturn. On the basis of planetary configurations described in various other chapters, the date on which Ravana was killed works out to be December 4, 5076 BC, and Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on January 2, 5075 BC, and that day was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra month. Thus Shri Ram had come back to Ayodhya at the age of 39 (5114-5075). 

A colleague, Dr Ram Avtar, researched on places visited by Shri Ram during his exile, and sequentially moved to the places stated as visited by Shri Ram in the Valmiki Ramayan, starting from Ayodhya he went right upto Rameshwaram. He found 195 places which still have the memorials connected to the events narrated in the Ramayana relating to the life of Shri Ram and Sita. These include Tamsa Tal (Mandah), Shringverpur (Singraur), Bhardwaj Ashram (situated near Allahabad), Atri Ashram, Markandaya Ashram (Markundi), Chitrakoot, Pamakuti (on banks of Godavari), Panchvati, Sita Sarovar, Ram Kund in Triambakeshwar near Nasik, Shabari Ashram, Kishkindha (village Annagorai), Dhanushkoti and Rameshwar temple.

(The writer is a Commissioner of Income Tax posted at Delhi. The article will conclude on the Oped page on Monday)